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Pheasant Creek
Current Parking Issues of Concern.....
SEE: Comments at BOTTOM of this page.
There is currently a holding pattern on some
types of towing (until approx. 60 days after
August 27) for new parking rules evaluation.
Vehicles will still be towed if they are:
A) blocking spaces
B) parked in the wrong unit assigned space
(and unit holder calls for towing)
C) Parked blocking dumpsters or in red zones or in "non-parking spaces".
There is vigorous discussion and strong differing opinions regarding
the parking permits, guest parking, identifying authorized vehicles,
non-operational vehicles, business vehicles, stored vehicles, etc.
Permits and Towing are at the top of the list of concerns.
Some of the current suggestions are:
1) One automatic Permit per Unit Owner.
or...
2) Two automatic Permits per Unit Owner.
3) Assign a Permit to a specific vehicle.
or...
4) Assign a Permit to a specific Unit Owner.
5) Print a Permit Sticker.
or...
6) Print a Placard (with a ID number of Unit Owner)
7) Prevent use of expired permits by changing colors each year.
8) Creating a limited number of "15 minute" spaces
within the Guest Parking areas.
9) Creating more spaces by reducing green areas
(like paving spaces in some of the ivy).
10) Allowing a Unit Owner to post un-used unit spaces
(or garage space) on a "for rent" list.
11) Changes to the definition of "Commercial Vehicle".
12) Changes to the rights to park "stored vehicles".
13) Installing automatic gates to slow the intrusion of outsiders.
Voice your opinion - [HERE]
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
Getting rid of extra cars to "save the planet" - Some
of us here are married couples who live in a 1 bedroom
condo. We don't require the space of a 2 bdrm condo,
but we do have one car each. Since we don't work
together at the same job, run the same errands, or
just spend every single second of our days together
making it convenient to only require one car in the
household - it is NECESSARY for us to have two. It's
not about saving the planet, or satisfying all those
of you who bitch endlessly on this issue. It's about
us living here, as a couple, with two cars and busy
lives. For all of you who are the complainers: Don't
you have anything better to spend your time doing
than patroling everyone else's cars and lives? Get a
life, hobby, spouse, pet - SOMETHING. Mind your own
business!
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
Possible Pheasant Creek Parking Solution Proposal
to the HOA Board and Merit Property Mgmt as follows:
(Phase-2 is located closer to El Toro Rd & Santa
Margarita. Phase-1 is in the middle. Phase-3 is
closer to River Oaks Apartments).
1. RIVER OAKS PARKING ISSUE: Since overflow from River
Oaks causes a domino effect, then I suggest we put up
posts and hang a chain with reflectors on it across
the access area. Installing automatic gates to slow
intrusion of outsiders is a good idea. Otherwise,
build a wall or use some other means of blocking or
separating vehicle access between the two areas.
SOLUTION: This will stop River Oaks residents and their
guests from taking over our complex.
2. PHASE PERMIT PARKING ISSUE: (Designated per Phase)
Phase Permit parking is for tenants only.
· I suggest that Merit paint Permit in parking spots
along the perimeter of the complex (with a few scattered
in-between) and have residents, with Phase permits, park
in Permit parking only.
· Permits should have Phase 1, 2 or 3 typed onto the
sticker so parking is designated per phase.
· Allow the residents to use their permits as floaters to
any car they wish, without registering it to a designated
vehicle. This should not be an issue since guest spots
will be freed up.
· Ask the residents to vote on a limited time frame to
rotate Phase Permit parked vehicles, for example, one week.
· I don't want my Condo# on our permits. Sometimes freaks
follow me into my complex and I don't want them knowing
which condo I live in.
SOLUTION: All the above will stop Pheasant Creek residents
from using all the guest spots with their extra cars.
Typing 1, 2 or 3 on the actual sticker will prevent
residents other Phases from taking over another Phase.
The reason for having designated permits per Phase is
because Phase-3 only has garages and guest spots; NO
CARPORTS, so they don't have many guest spaces. As a
result, if we don't issue Phase Permit Parking, then
simply having parking for Permit Only could also cause a
domino effect from Phase-3 into Phase-1, into Phase 2.
I suggest we do an experimental trial run for 90 days
(3 months) to see how this works. If it doesn't work,
we simple change it.
3. GUEST PARKING ISSUE: Guest parking is for guests only.
4. BUILDING MORE PARKING SPACES ISSUE: Replacing
landscaping for additional parking is also a solution.
I am hereby requesting that the HOA Members and Merit
present a proposal to the owners about this issue prior
to construction.
5. TOWING ISSUE: I suggest that towing be enforced after
midnight ONLY, unless they are violating an obvious rule
such a blocking, etc.
6. 5 MINUTE MAIL PARKING: I suggest that Merit paint
"5 Minute Mail Parking" on spots near the mailboxes.
In addition, I suggest Merit post a sign stating, for
example, "This parking is for temporary parking between
the hours of 2PM to 8 PM" (similar to the street sweeper
signs in Newport Beach). SOLUTION: This will prevent
traffic congestion and prevent people from temporarily
blocking cars or parking in an undesignated area while
they get their mail. It will also free up the traffic
flow, prevent accidents and allow the mailman to park
safely. I have seen the mail truck get hit by a vehicle
due to blocking and the police came.
7. SECURITY PRIVACY: Advise Patrol Masters NOT to give
out guest information to ANYONE. I was dating someone
who spent the night. We date other people. The next
week, that same person spent the night with a psycho
(example) who lived in another complex that used our
same security company. When the psycho called in my old
dates car, the security company said, "Hey, that car was
just called into Pheasant Creek last week!" Nonetheless,
it caused an argument between the two and now psycho
knows where I live! I don't need freaks knowing where
I live. That's not cool.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
What if the Board doen't make any changes to the
parking rules as specified in the C,C,& R's.
Homeowners will be required to park in their assigned
spaces only and all guest parking will be for guests
only. All those with more vehicles than bedrooms;
sell those extra cars and save the planet. As for
the civil libertarians whining about privacy when
applying for their parking stickers, stick it in your
ears. All Patrol Masters needs and requests is proof
that you own or rent here and a vehicle licence plate
number. They're not asking for your social security
number, drivers license number, or a drug test.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
We can replace stickers with different colors every
year or whenever the parking starts to get crowded.
We need to have stickers assigned to the unit instead
of the car!
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
I want everyone to know that the "proposed" new parking
rules are a complete violation of the CA Vehicle Codes.
Section 22658 states very clearly what can and cannot
be done on private property, such as ours. Here is a
direct link to that site:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc22658.htm
If any resident has their vehicle removed from this
property, and it violates this code, you could get up
to FOUR TIMES the amount of your towing charges should
you go to court. Just FYI... please inform all your
neighbors of this as well. Lets all stay informed on
the REAL rules for parking.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
We live in a 2 bedroom. My wife and I both have a car
and my daughter does as well. Unfortunately we have no
garage. I just hope the association finds a happy medium
that will suffice for all of us. Although, it would
certainly help if garage owners did park their vehicles
in their garages.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
Let's use the south end of the un-used park lawn area
for a double row of extra parking spots. This would
make additional parking spaces for about 20 cars and
still leave 80% of the lawn untouched.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
We will not give personal (private) information to anyone.
And we will use our "permits" on our visitors cars, as we
will not spend time and money getting permission from a
greedy towing company that makes money by "forgetting"
to honor "safe" parkers.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
I NEED to use my permits on the vehicle I am driving.
The vehicle I drive changes almost every day!
Assigning it to a vehicle will NOT work.
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
I just rented my extra space! Cool!
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
The only parking problem we have is the "Tow-Away-Police".
Too bad the "Security" definition is not "Security".
COMMENT FROM RESIDENT (unedited):
The word "Guest Parking" is not a single definiton. It is
a word that indicates a safe place for overflow parking,
special considerations and accomodations. Parking concerns
seem to be centered around the area of the association and the
River Oaks apartments. The apartments being the source of most
of the Guest parking issues. Some concerns expressed were the
misuse of garages and the overuse of the alotted guest spots.
I believe, for the most part, people who use the guest spots
are not overnight users (That's when parking/towings becomes
an issue), they are day visitors. The people who live here and
have business here, are willing and able to use their garages
and do for a number of reasons, to avoid increased theft from
vehicle break in's, vandalisms, to avoid falling sap from the
trees and dust from leaf blowers. However, the cooperatives are
penalized for the misuses of a few uncooperatives. Next, there
is an issue of the assigned vehicle to the spot or garage.
There are days I want my auto garaged and there are times I
want my other vehicle garaged. To have the threat of being
towed because the vehicle isn't in my designated spot is
untenable. If I have a guest and we dine out and visit others
into the evening and we overlook the time by a few minutes and
discover that the visitor has been towed by preditory towing
company policies, this is also unexceptable. I believe that a
permit (one per bedroom) allows me to park in a guest spot
thereby allowing me to exceed the 12 midnight deadline and
because my guest is in my assigned spot, the vehicle is
automatically safelisted without the privacy invasion of my
guest and inconveniences of safelisting and the fear of being
towed. And, because my vehicle has a sticker affixed to it,
demonstrates that I am associated with this complex with
permission to be parked here (in a guest spot) without the fear
of being towed. It seems that the guest parking is only an issue
past midnight and focused mostly in the River Oaks / Pheasant
Creek area. There has always been plenty (and I mean plenty) of
guest parking on the west end of the complex where I ultimately
park when accomodating my guests. If my visiting out of town
guest using a rental car or a borrowed one is towed for some
reason or minor oversight, the tow company accumulates fees per
day while the guest has to secure proof the vehicle is a rental
or the actual owner claims the vehicle. There is a lot of this
practice going on throuhgout the rental communities by preditory
tow companies. Let's not make the majority of our good community
to be a victim to River Oaks parking problems. They have green
areas they can convert to guest parking that will indeed relieve
our issues and let them secure their own parking permits for
their own areas.
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